A while back, a Reddit user asked, “[what is the] best thread for finer work?” Many people wrote in to say that our linen thread was at the top of their list.
Update: Since originally publishing this post, I’ve extensively written about sewing and thread. I recently updated this post to reflect those articles and added more insight to help you choose the best thread for finer leatherworking.
Stitching Consistency is the Most Important Thing
No matter what thread you choose, sewing consistently uniform stitches will make your work look ‘finer.’ The thread can be beautiful, but if the stitches are all over the place, that will be the first thing people notice. I did a post a while back rounding up several saddle stitching videos, and every person had an almost mechanical replication of their sewing movements. They didn’t squirm to see if their awl was going in correctly or peeking back and forth from one side to the other. Consistency of movement will transfer to your stitching.
The back side of the stitch is a gotcha for most beginners. One of my teachers described it as the ‘beginner’s mountain range’ because the haphazard stitch pattern looked like a panorama of the Alps. As you improve, your awl more consistently goes into the stitch mark perpendicular to the surface. When sewing, you can isolate both axes where rotation happens: front to back, where the stitches look smaller or larger and top to bottom, where the stitches go either closer to or further from the edge. Front-to-back rotation typically happens when you flick your wrist going into the stitch. When you do that, the awl tip follows an arc path in right-to-left motion. The top-bottom rotation usually comes from raising or lowering your elbow.
If you want to improve your stitching technique, try holding a big wooden spoon and, without thinking about it, make the same movement as you do when you use your awl. Hold the spoon part like the flat of your awl. The more extended handle will exaggerate the movement, and you’ll be able to see where you tend to drift.
A more recent technique is to omit the awl entirely and pre-punch your holes. Traditional pricking irons are named after what they do: mark the surface of the leather so you can later open the hole with an awl. Newer irons have very narrow tapers, which allow you to punch through the leather. Your traditional irons will also do this up to about ~1.8mm / 4 oz. By punching all the way through, you eliminate one variable, your awl work, to get more consistent sewing. This method is not entirely carefree, especially with thick leather or multiple layers. With thicker material, you introduce the risk of non-parallel holes. If you inadvertently angle your irons, you can enter at one distance on the top of the leather and exit closer or farther from the edge.
Match Stitching to the Thickness of the Thread
Update: I wrote a detailed article on how to match your thread to your stitches per inch. The advice below on linen thread is similar. I’ve expanded the chart below to include linen, MBT polyester, and other common thread measurement.
The above image shows our different thread thicknesses in the same 9 SPI stitch count. 0.1mm doesn’t seem like a lot, but you can see the difference in thickness, especially side by side.
I recommend 532 or 632 thread at 9 SPI if you use just one size pricking iron and thread. The 9 SPI is an all-around good size for both bags and accessories. I use this most often, and it works great for finer work.
If you’re going to 7 SPI, I recommend the thicker 432. The smaller threads don’t look great at low stitch counts and won’t hold the seam as long. The 432 looks good for larger work like handbags and duffels. Again, you can use 9 SPI and 632 for larger work, but some styles match better with the thicker look.
Many synthetic thread users use a medium-weight thread like #5 MBT for 7 SPI. For a chunkier, 7 SPI or 6 SPI, use 332. Its thicker diameter gives weight to the stitches and works well with similarly designed work.
If you use larger than 6 SPI, I’d recommend a different thread line with thicker sizes. I don’t see the larger sizes used much in luxury/fine work, though they are often used in more rugged styles.
If you’re doing very fine work like watch straps, I’d recommend 832 at 10 or 11 SPI. This gives a more delicate feel to the work, and the thread looks more appropriate to the project size.
Recently, I tore down a luxury bag and saw that two thread thicknesses were being used on different parts. They used the equivalent of 332 for the straps and handles at 7 SPI and 632 at 9 SPI for the rest. The size difference seemed more for aesthetics since both would hold up equally well.
By the numbers, here are the thicknesses of our different threads, linen thread and MBT Polyester, for comparison:
Linen size | Linen Diameter | MBT size | MBT Diameter | MBT Tex |
332 | 0.77mm | #1 | 0.9mm | 253 TEX |
432 | 0.63mm | #5 | 0.6mm | 168 TEX |
532 | 0.57mm | |||
632 | 0.51mm | #8 | 0.45mm | 100 TEX |
832 | 0.43mm | #20 | 0.3mm | 77.5 TEX |
Related Posts
- If these sizes confuse you like they initially did for me, read our article on thread sizes.
- Find the correct needle size for your thread.
Small Details Make Finer Work
Making finer work is all about the details. Often, many minor differences separate the very best work from its competitors. Our thread is re-twisted to make it a little bit denser than others. You would think that the difference would be minor, but as others have confirmed, it really makes the thread stand out.
Similarly, you can do several things to improve your work’s thread-related details. Below are a few that you can try individually or all together.
Contrasting stitch. Use a lighter color thread on a darker leather or vice versa to highlight your stitching work. It is also a way of challenging yourself to improve your sewing because it will stand out.
Match the color to the lining or edging. Matching the exterior thread to the bag’s interior can make the colors “pop” when the bag is opened. A good example of this technique is to use red thread on the outside of a gray bag to highlight a red interior.
The backstitch is a prominent part of the seam. The additional thread makes it stand out from the rest of the line, and people’s attention can naturally gravitate toward it. It is often in a noticeable location, like the top of a bag or right next to the hardware. If you learn to sew ambidextrously, as I teach in our case course, you can place the backstitch consistently in the right place.
Update: When I originally posted this article, people were doing terrible things with their stitch holes. I would say we’re past this today, but I still hear from people doing the below.
Minimize the hole size. If you’re using a drill or lace marker, mark your stitches with a tool that makes smaller holes, like a pricking iron or pricking wheel. Minimizing the hole structurally strengthens the stitches and gives it a nicer look.
Sew instead of riveting. Using rivets is a big time saver for creating belts or straps, but sewing them can create a finer look. Though it takes more time to sew a strap closed than riveting, the results are worth it.
What Is The Best Thread For Leather Work?
The best thread is the one that matches the needs and style of your project. If you’re sewing a simple strap to repair a little kid’s tote, you might not need to bust out the Lin Cable to make a piece to last the ages. On the other hand, is your child’s first elementary school backpack that you intend for them to give to their kids? You should pull out all the stops in making that heirloom piece. The best thread for leather is a combination of the right choice, usage, and technique.
Glenn
What does tpi mean?
Fine Leatherworking
Teeth Per Inch
Glenn
Thanks! This makes things more clear. Interesting article.
Josh
Hi there. Your article references 9 tpi (teeth per inch), but the chart states 9 spi (stitches per inch). 9 spi = 8 tpi. So which is it?
thanks!
josh
Fine Leatherworking
Great catch! The stitches I used in the picture were made with a 9tpi iron so the picture caption should actually say TPI not SPI.
Tommy
Hi, I am an amateur leather worker and have heard that polyester thread is the strongest and best thread to use. Could you explain to me why this linen thread is so good? I am sure it is a matter of opinion but I would to hear both sides of the story 🙂 Thank you!
Fine Leatherworking
Hi Tommy, that’s a great question and one that would require a bit longer of an answer. This might be the subject of a future blog post. Thanks for the suggestion!
Tommy
Haha, ok. I look forward to that blog post!
mason
i would say, If there is stress points on the item Id rather have the Linen to break instead of the leather to rip. I feel polyester is strong enough to rip leather.
Fine Leather
Interesting thought!
Katie Siepierski
Hello!
I am fairly new to leather, and your site has been ao very helpful, thank you!
I wanted to ask your advice if you wouldn’t mind. I have some ideas in my head and will be practising first of coursw, but before I start buying more supplies that I want to test out I really wanted to ask for your opinion.
I want to make a vest for myself and my daughter- i will be using 1oz deerskin and some very well tanned, thin, but prime fur silver fox hides. My idea is to have the leather on the interior of the vest (not sure if i want leather side or suede side facing inward yet) and the silver fox pelts on the outside. The stitching will all be done by hand, and I am looking for consistency, quality, strength and durability. But, worat case scenario during wear, I would much rather the thread break than the leather tear at the seam like a perforated check.
I was thinking of using the equivalent of size #69 thread and size 18 needle, but I am not sure how many SPI I should have. I was thinking maybe 7 SPI?
But then I worry maybe I am thinking about this too delicately? Or overthinking it.
If you were hand sewing a vest with 1oz deerskin and fine silver fox pelts, what would you use for thread, needles, and for marking the stitches? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you for your time
Fine Leather
Hi Katie – feel free to send us an email and we can help you out with the details. Email details are on our page at fineleatherworking.com. Thanks!
Mark Main
This is a great site, thank you for doing this. I was looking for a TPI / SPI formula (or chart) for the French pricking irons, which is what led me here. If you have a chance to post something on this it would be appreciated. Also, anything that helps with deciding on the best TPI for large vs. small bags, vs. wallets and belts. Thanks again!
Fine Leather
Hi Mark! Thanks for your feedback – we’re certainly going to keep this in mind for a future update/new post. Thanks for reading!
Liam Williams
For the best results in hand sewing leather watch straps, what size of needle and thread size. I have been using John James size 2 and galaces thread .8mm. This has produced reasonable results. What thread make would you suggest for watch straps?
Fine Leather
Hi Liam. Good question. For fine work like watch straps, I’d recommend 832 size linen thread at 10 or 11 tpi. For needles, a Size 4 John James needle would complement that combination well. I hope that helps!
Liam Williams
Thanks for that. Will try it out.
Fine Leather
Keep us in the loop, Liam!